KOREAN JAPANESE ENGLISH stuff I NOTICED

Okay so I love SISTAR’s new song just because it’s not as noisy/engrish as their previous songs. As much I loved hyorin in immortal song I could not become a fan of sistar because I couldn’t like any of the songs. but now i hvae one!

So I first watched the music video then i watched the live performance and with that i finally found out what hyorin was singing over and over again. she’s saying i’m falling down. but instead of emphasizing the fa part she emphasizes the ll part. I think there’s nothing wrong with that it’s just we usually emphasize the fa part in talking and singing. It’s interesting how she emphasizes the ll part.. I don’t know if it’s on purpose or because she doesn’t speak english but either way i like it. she’s singing so she can emphasize whatever part and all plus I do like how she sings it like that except when i didn’t have the lyrics I could not tell what she was singing.  I couldn’t even tell if it was english or korean though. lol.

HYUNA AND SDN48’s serina! 芹那

hyuna reminds me of serina from sdn48 with her voice/way she talks. maybe it’s not that similar but for some reason it remindss me of serina. maybe it’s because the way hyuna talks reminds me of the way japanese girls talk (not all japanese girls talk like that… but you know what i mean right)

here’s a yt search for serina if you don’t know her.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E8%8A%B9%E9%82%A3&oq=%E8%8A%B9%E9%82%A3&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=youtube-psuggest.3..0.9052.11754.0.12032.13.10.0.0.0.3.169.1023.6j4.10.0.

but obviously the way serina talks is really extreme… it’s like equivalent to a 6 year old even though she’s like 26.  I wish she would talk with her natural voice.

you can hear her natural voice at the beginning of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tgZocOmwWI

OR MAYBE it’s only because hyuna’s voice is cutesy??

OMG THIS VIDEO TOTALLY PROVES that my intuition is correct. there’s definitely something with hyuna

0:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfx1zx4uZKI

her voice is the least grating (everyone but hyuna sound so grating since they’re speaking Japanese with their korena voice and although hyuna is talking with her korena voice her.. her voice is different so.. it’s like an exception) out of all the members in Japanese… despite her accent. her cutesy talking matches Japanese? I wonder if that means her actual voice is deeper than the one she actually uses? since that’s what serina is doing.

If anyone else feels the way i do and would like to contribute and provide me some clarity please do.

OH AND I didn’t know what 4 minute is till recently just because i don’t care about kpop. but anyways they were being interviewed on arirang tv so they just interviewed in korean and they subbed it in english. I noticed this one girl’s voice was interesting and i was like oh it reminds me of something.. who is that? and then i realized it was serina. Then i found out that member is hyuna.  I only saw their arirang interview because I saw ailee’s arirang interview which i only saw because she went on immortal song and then i found out she’s fluent in english since she’s from new jersey.

吉高由里子　장재인 another link

THE OTHER inter-country stars between Korean and japan that are reminiscent of each other is yoshitaka yuriko and jang jane. I SWEAR if jane jane spoke japanese she would sound like yy and IF yoshitaka yuriko spoke korean she’d like JJ. woww both of them have such interesting initials.  i wonder what yoshitaka yuriko’s singing voice is like? They look sorta similar toooooooo

ONE LAST THIGN IS this korean reality tv show person who looks like tanaka..the annoying/ugly/creepy one in アンガールズ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy-gBO0Ia-8&feature=player_embedded

btw this korean tv show is boring so i don’t recommend it but anyways this discovery is just wow…

click for my short lang-8 entry in japanese regarding this discovery

copy-psating my tumble entry

https://www.tumblr.com/tsukinofune/25894292704/%ED%83%91%EB%B0%B4%EB%93%9C2-%EB%8D%B0%EC%9D%B4%EB%B8%8C%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%B4%ED%81%AC-%EB%B2%94%ED%8D%BC%EC%B9%B4120623-omg-im-so-impressed

탑밴드2] 데이브레이크 범퍼카..120623

omg I’m so impressed with dcaybreak. i swear i never paid attention to them in the past but i’ve really taken note of them… with their most recent album release and performances of the tracks on the 3rd album on youtube…

 

this is such a great performance… I love the part where it gets all slow  and drawn-out @2:58 like he’s trying to talk slow …. (isn’t it like usually  bands/singers get louder or faster or whatever during the climax or the change in tempo or whatever in the middle of the song yet they did the exact opposite yet it was climatic in every sense of that word ) . and the piano is awesome 🙂

the lead singer looks so adorable with his movements when he’s singing the drawn-out and slow part. this stuff is infectious !

the lead singer reminds me of another singer. im gonna say that is karasu’s lead singer for some reason. this band and karasu’s style is really different. but for some reason reminds me of the lead singer of karasu.. i mean i’ve yet to hear a karasu song a uppity/happy as this daybreak song and so the respective bands have different styles but i still go omg he reminds me of ___.. some of the parts when he changes the way he sings reminds me of the lead singer of karasu ESPECIALLY THE part where they slow down.

here’s a link to a karasu song if you’re curious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YzkDRvYAzE

just in general i love the lead siger of karasu’s 鴉　voice…. b/c there’s lots of people in japaense music industry who cannot sing or sing off-key on purpose…(for reals) though i try my best to find people worthy of my time/ears and of course karasu is one of those artists. and his voice is very unique and i love it.. it has a nice feel to it like the vulnerable feel when that characteristic is required in the song.  even with the screaming i lvoe it or rather becuase he’s screaming the parts i really feel it.

Korean Song- Learn from Lyrics… YET AGIAN

So I’m just posting it cause I love this song. I’ve listened to it countlessly in the past. I love it but I never looked up the lyrics. there’s parts where i can’t catch what he’s saying and all that but I didn’t really care to look it up b..c at that time I was very focused on learning japanese. I just naturally feel more interested/invested looking up Japanese crap than korean crap with just the situation i was in and rikai-chan etc etc.

Link to song on YT. maybe the live version is nice too

언니　네 이발관
산들산들

The lyrics!

＊＊[모두것이]그렇게 사라져 가는데
아무것도 할 수 없었네
잊을 수 없을 것만 같던
순간도 희미해져 갔어

영원히 변하지 않는건
세상 어디에도 없었지
하지만 잊을 수 없는게
어딘가 남아 있을거야

나는 이런 평범한 사람
누군가의 별이 되기엔
아직은 부족하지 그래도 난 가네
나는 나의 길을 가
소나기 피할 수 없어
구름 위를 날아 어디든지 가
외로워도 멈출 수 없는 그런 나의 길

다가올 시간 속의
너는 나를 잊은 채로 살겠지
하지만 잊을 수 없는게
조금은 남아있을 거야
새로운 세상으로 가면
나도 달라질 수 있을까
맘처럼 쉽진 않겠지만
꼭 한번 떠나보고 싶어

나는 이런 평범한 사람
많은 세월 살아왔지만
아직은 부족하지 그래서 난 가네
나는 나의 길을 가
소나기 두렵지 않아
구름 위를 날아 어디든지 가
외로워도 웃음지을 수 있는 곳이면
어디든 가고 싶네
그게 나의 길
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k-indie love! ♥
Not much to learn from this song for me actually but I learned /looke dup something : 소나기
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맘 = 마음 if you were wondering.

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if you just do luke park somewhat I’m sure you can figure this song out for the most part or whole part. I also had that post about super junior song 사라져 this song has that conjugation thing too 🙂

There’s a bunch more korean songs I’ve fallen in love with recently but I don’t know the song title nor the singer since my mp3 player screen is dead. I just know I like those songs a lot so I guess i’ll learn what that song is if i ever come across the song on my computer or my screen gets fixed. I would love to look up the lyrics/singing along that type of stuff.

And I used to end the post with like yt videos but I just use tumblr now?

but anyways i’m just gonna post KARASU’s new song which is… disappointing. I still like it though . basically all the people commenting are like OMG he’s not screaming this time. I too love his screaming but I feel like either way people are gonna say OMG this shit is getting old/tiring OR oh he’s not doing that thing like he did before. I hope they don’t die out. as fans it’s like we want them to evolve, yet grow and change but we also want them to stay the same. but by same we don’t mean watered-down versions of the original songs. by evolving we don’t mean changing in a bad direction. IT’s a hard balance and I hope they don’t screw up 😦 just judging from this song I don’t thin kthey’re going down a slippery slope and in some interview he was saying he has more songs that he wrote in the basement of his house or something while he was trying to get the band up-and going and get more popular and earn $$$ and there’s also songs they perform at lives that aren’t on the albums that people want on the albjms. so i’m sure they won’t burn-out anytime sooon.

I love his voice. he is good at singing.  I have no idea if this drama is good or not. They keep giving their songs to these dramas that air on local television channels? I never heard of them. I sorta wish they would also do a song in akita ben lol or incorporate (like somehow make it sound cool lolz). even if it’s not that, if one day they get big enough to go on some tv show and get interviewed, I hope I get to see them speak akita-ben which is pretty pretty hilarious.  Maybe like sasaki nozomi + karasu interview since they’re both from akita ❤

oh and b.c. of the SNSD on american tv thing I found out about the wonder girls nickelodean  movie and that nick cannon is the president of it now? good for him.

I saw the clip of jyp acting. It’s weird watching him speak english…. it’s like… I don’t know how to explain it. It’s interesting.  I’ve seen him speak english on kpopstar too it’s just fascinating. maybe his persona in general, especially in korean and also in english? so maybe i’ll chck out clips of the movie on youtube cause i’m just curious but i’m sure it’ll be just another cheap nick made for tv movie. I just really like how in the kpopstars sbs thing they ACTUALLY give critique that’s constructive and detailed. they legitimately just explain it very thouroughly why the person sucks balls. I feel like the reason that the contesttsants don’t talk bad  to the judges isn’t just because they’re young, or they’re korean and their culture is blahblahblha, or they want to appeal to the judges with their behavior…. I think it’s really because what the judges say to them is so true and so on point and so constructive… which makes it that much more painful to hear and thus renders person unable to say anything back? no seriously, I wish on americna idol they would explain to the person what was wrong with their singing in a more detailed, thorough explanation so the person feels so humiliated that they get their bubble of obliviousness popped. there seriously were people that were angry because the judges wouldn’t explain to them why their singing was bad. american idol has abdul and randy who are useless as hell. they say either nothing or the same shit over and over or say something about the pitch (um anyone can say that.). It’s just so boring, their words are so empty and they’re just wasting everyone’s time. yeah i know that they have new judges on american idol but i wouldn’t be surprised if their critique is as empty and banal as the previous judges. in this respect, the Korean kpop show is MUCH better. it’s actually stimulating to watch to hear what the people say. I’m not gonna say Simon cowell’s got nothing on JYP or anything since simon says intersting stuff too but if anything ‘i’m sure jyp is more knowledgeable about music and singing as well as critiquing people about that. But in all fairness I do fast-foward the kpop star show if it’s boring, including critiques if it’s like someone I don’t care about.

I also found out that they, the wonder girls, were on the wwendy williams show. I absolutely hate this lady cause she says spoilers of the tv episode of whatever primetime drama, she cuts peoeple off, etc etc.  I just feel bad for all the guests that go on her show.

OH and for some reason I get random peope liking/following me which I think they’re only doing in the hopes that i follow them back or some shit. seriously, the theme of their blog is so… different so i really doubt they actually liked whatever blog entry of mine etc etc. am i being cynical? i dun think so. if anything it’s pretty damn irrelevant to them, no?

And lately, I’ve been thinking about the blandness of tyra’s talk show. just reading applemilk1988 dirt on raspberrysyrup livejournal is so much fun and stimulating because eveyrone’s english is just very rich. then i watch a clip of tyra’s talk show and it just feels so dumbed down and all that. It’s like I thought this show was for americans, not people who are trying to learn english.  there’s a reason people use the word fluent. if you’re fluent in english, you can enjoy english with more rich vocab and seneteces structures and shit like on that LJ I mentioned and shit like tyra banks show is not tolerable. it’s just so boring and unstimulating from the way they speak englsih. it’s like if you only speak english… can you at least speak it more fluently/intersetinginly/fluidly.  Okay, sometimes she has guests that aren’t eduated for whatever reason the topic is ___.

I’m just writing this because I was watching a clip b.c. the topic she had was interesting. I just felt like while I was watching what’s the point? the english used was so boring and it felt like they were just saying things in an unnecessarily long/dragged out fashion etcetc. I just felt like I’m better off reading a book in english that has many words that i don’t know than watch this or read the LJ over (the one I mentioned previously). It just feels like a waste of time. AND this is why I really like watching well-written dramas were i have to consult dictionary/urbandictinoary often lolz or just don’t i guess. I’m literally depending on the american dramas to maintain my fluency in english as far as understanding. Just because, there’s always gonna be new slang and since i now choose to just come in contact with japanese/korean media I have to limit my time (i don’t have any time!) with american/english media to the dramas that are well-written.

Example of learning Korean from Korean Music!

Basically I’ll just highlight certain things in the sample songs to show like how you have to unconjugate crap to actually look it up. Little example/tutorial.  It’s like one of the reasons why learning songs from japanese is so frikin’ easy especially compared to korean with the rikai-chan and no worries about conjugating even cause rikai-chan does it for you.

But anyways for the resources like that grammar guide that teaches the conguation + dictionaries REFERENCE the previous entry.

https://choronghi.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/learning-korean-from-korean-music/

I’m gonna do it all K->J for the example, if you wanna do english well use the english/korean dictionaries.  . I would do K-> K at this point but I haven’t found fast-reliable way to do that… in the end k->J is faster to look up so until I find some nice k->k- I dunn wanna do that.

웃음 Lucia + (Duet With Epitone Project)

This song’s not on youtube but you can download it somewhere on the internet…

Gonna put a * for all the lines in the song so it doesn’t get so confusin loking.

Underline is particles.

***벼랑 같았던 시간에 끝에서 널 만난 건***

같았던→같았다→같아→같다

널→ 너를

만나다→ 만난

건 → 것은

***어쩌면 우연인걸까 아직도 웃음이나***
인걸까 = grammar thing

나 → 나다 So this one might confuse you. 이나 also has a meaning but it’s clear from the context                 and the way she sings it that it’s obviously 이 the particle + 나 from 나다

***두 손을 마주 붙잡고 걸었던 많은 시간***

붙잡고→ 붙잡다

걸었던 → 걸었다 → 걸어 → 걷다

많은 → 많다
***때론 거짓말 같아서 아직도 웃음이나***
때론 →때로는

같아 → 같다 . 서 = grammar thing

***어쩔 수 없던 시간은 누구의 탓도 아냐***

어쩔 수 없던  → ~~없다

아냐  아니야

***어쩌면 우연인걸까 그래서 웃음이나***
***두 손을 마주 붙잡고 걸었던 많은 시간***
***때론 거짓말 같아서 그래서 웃음이나***

***아직도 나는 기억해 우리의 모습들을***

기억해. 해 → 하다
***때론 어제일 같아서 그래서 웃음이나***

*가끔은 꿈만 같아서 그래서 웃음이나

꿈 만 are 2 different words so you got look up 꿈  and 만 but they’re both really common words  so                 I doubt anyone got all confused because of that.

The song’s pretty simple so I only learned 2 words but it sounds really nice so I listened to it a lot. So go find it and listen it. ‘sall

This is lingoes. the setting i used to make it show the definition by clicking shift and clicking furiously (cause the program is glitchy) to get it working… is..

LONELY by 2ne1

I’m only gonna talk about one line with this grammar point

지금 내가 하는 얘기 널 아프게 할지 몰라
아마 날 죽도록 미워하게 될꺼야
내가 예전 같지 않다던 네 말 모두 틀린 말은 아니야

I believe that luke park did’t cover this on his grammar guide as far as my memory goes but anyways it’s pretty easy to google grammar points and finding explanations at least in japanese.and honestly he explains all the common /useful crap so by the time you get through that i don’t see why you can’t figure it out with google and shit with your knowledge of korean grmamar.

so the last line of the thre lines I posted . 다던 conjugation in 않다던 means 　引用：～だといっていた（過去の継続回想）

◆動詞　母音語幹　-ㄴ다던
子音語幹　-는다던
その他（補助語幹含む）- 다던

which means that the guy “said that”  that’s the 다던 part. so it means that the guy said “내가 예전 같지 않다” actually can’t you think of 다던  as “” marks. does that make the explanation easier?

There’s also

◆動詞　母音語幹　-ㄴ다는　　引用：～だという
子音語幹　-는다는
その他（補助語幹含む）- 다는

but it makes sense that she used the one above instead of this becaues the one above has that nuance 過去の継続回想.  回想 means reflection/ reminiscence and 継続 which means continuing.

FYI if you care I tried singing along with it and like for the first couple times it was really heard to pronounce that part 않다던 for some reason just because of the da-dun part AND AND i keep pronouncing it like anata or anta in japanese which is really bad lol. I really am trying to pronounce it correctly but the japanese is just in me  😦 .

OR MAYBE I’m just being over-sensitive because 않다던 sounds like anta and i might be just saying it fine. I can’t help but feel like I’m saying it like anta just because the line is just fast and when it’s fast whatever comes out, comes out. 😦

the japanese really is not good for my korean pronunciation cause japnaese makes me move my mouth less (it’s very minimal especially compared to english/korean.) like i’m prety sure japanese people’s katsuzetsu would be better if they also can speak another language… like the geinin on ame talk for katsuzetsu warui geinin ) and when i try to read korean my mouth won’t open lol because of the damn japanese….  . ii’lll get over it soon enough hopefully but you know i don’t have the shitty american accent or the korean accent with my japanaese (thank god… those accents are annoying like the ZU -namari with the korean people) and I have that intonation shite down! 🙂  AND like I’ve seen foreigners since this song on the korean talent shows and they always fuck up that part and THAT PART ALWAYS SOUNDS like chinese or something. that pisses me off lol. I get it’s hard to pronounce. I experienced it too but if you can’t fix it, please don’t sing it lol. it sounds like chinese. nothing against chinese it s just the pronunciation is just dirty and ruins it.  😦

LIKE THE REASON I sorta gave up on shadowing that I said I was gonna do in the previous post is because the korean actors have really really good enunciation. They talk fast but their pronunciation/enunciation is really good/impeccable too which obviously they are since they only speak korean except for those speakers that also speak awesome english. Basically ,it’s just hard to keep up. well nothing AKATT can’t fix but i mean is very um… disconnected lol which kills the last three letters.. ATT but alas I guess my goal as of now is improving vocab and increasing my ability to conjugate/unconjugate verbs and adjectives and all that stuff in the non-painful way (which means i’m not gonna memorize the conjugation rules. I’m just gonna be aware and if it shows up I go oh they conjugated like ___ since it’s ___). Fun enlightenment as opposed to drilling.  It’s like one of the reasons why those people that post videos of themselves speaking korean think so long and hard and give us mostly silence then…. actual content with words and shit.

and another ting concerning the song

미워하다 . I saw this and I thought of 미웝다 (which conjugates to 미워운 for describing crap while for japanese you don’t even haｖe to conjugate you just put the word next it ie 憎たらしい→憎たらしい人　but then again you have to for -na adjectives but all you do is stick -na. that’s so easy right? ) and I thought oh shit don’t tell me this is some verb conjugation shit but it’s not cause they’re 2 different words (thank you dictinoary)…. I think they’re adjectives. the thing with korean is the adjectives are like verbs so I just want to just call them verbs….