btw does hiro speak english or something?????? it’s pretty good because you know japanese people usually sing some weird katakana english lol. The first couple times I herad it… the beginnign sorta sounded southern/wetsern to me lol. by southern/western I mean the american kind. A little hill/billy lol. I don’t feel that anymore but that was my first impression. SPEAKING OF first impression I LOVED NO BRAIN’s RENDITION OF FIRST impression by kim gung-mo. The last time no brain performed on immortal song it was too noisy but this time it was just right..
love the organ in the beginning.
My questions are the following:
why make the girl who’s not fluent in english sing the english lines? And why didn’t the girl fluent in english help the girl who’s not fluent in english sound more … natural? (well maybe she did but… some of the pronunciation is like… if they just nailed it would’ve been amazing but she didn’t so it took away from the song)
why make the girls who don’t speak japanese sing in japanese?
>> Not only that the girl who speaks Japanese also speaks some good english right? I was surprised by how good sooyoung’s english was with the pronunciation not saying it’s as good as native or amazing but definitely along the lines of good. Is suuyon’s singing that bad? lol do they do auditions for each song they release or do they just let the lead singers always sing it? I really don’t know how good sooyon is at singing but I really feel like it would’ve been better if they used her just BECAUSE she’s the one with the best japanese pronunciation/intonation. since this song is emotional… that stuff becomes even more important. like for GEE the lyrics are just weird anyway so it’s hard to understand anyway in some of the parts and to be hoenst their wrong intonation/pronunciation would help them since people would think that’s more cute possibly? Like on ame talk they were talking about how kara was speaking japanese in the beginning of the MV and that it was really cute because they’re speaking with the korean intonation or whatever…. their namari. (THEEIR japanese has been getting better as of late… for example the usual phrases like arigatougozaimasu etc etc sound PERFECT with the intonation…. which obviously happens cause they hear it a lot and they say it alot… so i hope they start noticing intonation more and more… to go on and speak japaense that sounds more pleasant compared to japanese with korean intonation/pronunciation)–
obviously there’s pronunciation or intonation problems as far the JAPANESE is concerned… one that especially stood out was the word “ketsumatsu”. If she nailed it… the emotional effect would’ve tremendous and I would’ve loved it but it was off so it was almost comical just because that’s what japanese sounds like if it’s pronunced wrong…. in certain situations. Rather than comical, I was just disappointed that she pronounced ketsumatsu like any korean person would or maybe her ketsumatsu pronunciation has to do with her english thing since she speaks english? but anyways it was the opposite intonation or whatever so it was lke UGH!
THANK god there was no “zu” or “ze” … that would’ve really killed the emotioanl impact of the song. koreans have trouble pronouncing the z in japanese…. but then again 2 of the lead singers speak english so it wouldn’t matter?? but seriously there was this s.e.s. song that was in japanese and it was all emotional but they got the girl who doesn’t speak japanese to sing AKIRAMEZU and that totally killed the emotional thing. i read one of them actually speaks japanese anyway so why didn’t they let her sing that part since you know the akirameju doesn’t really do much lol except causing laughter.
and I found hiro’s version… Japanese guy and I was like I wonder if they made him sing it FIRST so they can listen to it and try to copy the way he sings. … obviously they can put their own flair on it but they got to sing it with the correct intonation on a fundamental level.
Un|fortunately once I heard that SNSD song a couple times I get immune to their pronunciation problems and I notice it less and get bothered it by less so I can’t point out all the words/lines that was like… “off” because even if listen to it now I’ve become used to it lol. But seriously, the first time I heard it I was like OMG why are they doing a ballad… the problems in pronunciation/intonation become really clear with ballads. it sound sorta sounded iffy the first time around as far as i can remember… (I tihnk I had to look up the lyrics b.c. i couldn’t understand parts or something) I don’t know how a Japanese person would feeeeeel…. maybe since they heard more japanese than i did… no matter how many times they listen to it the problems will be noticeable. then again when i listen to it even now there’s parts i’m like wtf she say and ihave to look up th elyrics… like the part where it’s わがままも今は愛しくて. i hear wagaga mo ima ha itoshite? i’m like wtf is itoshite? WAIT UP hiro says itoshite tooooooooo. i don’t get this lol.
But anyways the Japanese lyrics are pretty good…
I was thinking to singing in Japanese with correct intonation doesn’t even require you to speak Japanese fluently persay…… like I saw some show where they had all these foreigner peope and they don’t speak ajpanese but when they sang the japanee songs they sounded mad japanese. maybe there were a couple parts where the intonation was alittle iffy for some of those people but for the most part I was like wow they sound like a japanese person lol. Some show about seeing foreigners sing Japanese songs. These rae just people that really like japnaes music.. .they don’t even live in Japan. SO WHAT i’m saying is… they should allow the girls to immerse themselves in Japanese … just spend more time with it in general and if it really is like they’re short on time and they just want their japanese singing pronunciation to be better then make them karaoke japanese songs/listen to japanese songs or something. (omg this is so true. I came across a video of some thai or filipino girl covering anime opening songs and her japanese pronunciation is flawles slike i can understand her fine AND AND not only that she sang just like how the seiyuus sing… you know how anime seiyuu people do things with their voice when they sing that conventional singers don’t do… especially nana mizuki) Like seriously, why do THEY chooose a ballad where all the flaws really noticeable and then give sooyoung 0 LINES. If it’s an emotional ballad intonation does come into play. But like I said before I’ve heard that song a bunch of times so I don’t even notice the flaws no more lol. but like i said i won’t feel the full emotional pull till the korean version comes out or the english version comes out (sang by only tiffany and jessica lol). but on a more positive note there are girl groups for kpop who suck horribly at pronunciation and intonation to the point i have toruble understanding them in their singing/tlaking etc or the accent is mad obvious so in that way snsd is better than those groups.
Ummm I hope they release a korean version so I can feel really moved and whatnot since obviously won’t hear weird pronunciation problems. I mean the japanese version is still moving and all that but it would’ve been so much MORE MOVING and whatnot if their intonation was better.
ANOTHER thing that bothered me among other things in that same song is when jessica? said hanshinhangi in the song THE BOYS... which I think they only perofrmed once in Japan… on hey hey hey. If it was correct intonation then it would’ve awesome but it wasn’t so it killed the effect 😦
iu’s good day japanese song. The lyrics are good. I’m not gonna comment on the part about the korean that is inserted into the song. I like the people that translate te songs to japanes eLOL. they do a good job. They make the lyric very beautiful and JAPANESE. Wow… the first time I watched her MV there’s parts (or more like the whole part minus the korean parts) i can’t understand what she’s singing so I had to look up the lyrics. she has some accent but um.. I feel like compared to kara or snsd she’s going to improve her japanese the fastest I feel like… 1) she’s by herself 2) her personality (she was on some show where she tried to speak in japanese as much as possible and of course she made mistakes but… it’s the fact that doesn’t bother her.. hell she didn’t mind it when some random person in the crowd during her performance called her a pig. — because she was fat at the time. ) … I just think her personality is really geared toward language-learning…. compared to if her personality isn’t what it is. So I don’t think if she’ll become the next big thing in kpop since KARA in Japan or if she’ll just fade out or not. Japanes people really like cute stufffff so who knows.
This reminds me of t-ara. I was thinking like why did they choose these lyrics of all lyrics because it makes their japanese sound horrible. there’s some native ameircan song where they say the words koi koi koi and . kitekitekite even sooyon has trouble saying the words shutsuen suru koto ga dekite with the correct intonation (that I noticed) but like other than that her pronunciation is pretty good and definitely a lot easier to understand than the other girls. But anyways the koi koi and especially the kite kite sounds really bad lol.
I found this which I totally agree with:
which means they shouldn’t rush them into debuting in japan……. intonation is sorta importanttttttttt