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Jin Season 2 episode 1!

Posted in Uncategorized by choronghi on August 10, 2011

it reminded me of the pirates movie because of this background music they used ( the 3rd pirate smovie was horrible needlessly to say). and it was dragged out yo. why do they always do this to the preiere and finale…. it just kills it. all the build-up they tried to get with the emotions in the first episode was all near flat for me since they were dragged out. I was like oozawa (oosawa?) is working hard for his money because they dragged it too much and it’s obviously straining having to act that part out longer than needed (since they want to make this premiere ep so long… it’s longer than most movies??). By all means if they have enough materia lfor 1 hour and 45 minutes then maybe it would well-paced  and might be fine but it was like they had 1 hr 30 minutes worth of stuff and they just did ever whatever they can to fill the 15 minutes up and like it just killed the dramatic buildup of certain scenes.

EDIT: OMG I noticed something on…. right now I’m on ep 10 but this thing they put in ep 1 like repeated again like at least 2 more times and I don’t like it… which is when JIN IS LKE OPERATIN’ and THEN LIKE SPOILER AHEAD by THE FATE AND ALL THAT CRAP THE PERSON gets DIC which is Disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC), also known as disseminated intravascular coagulopathy or consumptive coagulopathy, is a pathological activation of coagulation (blood clotting) mechanisms that happens in response to a variety of diseases. DIC leads to the formation of small blood clots inside the blood vessels throughout the body

and i didn’t know what that meant till now lol when i looked it up. and then he starts SPOILER! talking/screaming/yelling at them as he does cpr? whatever that is called….. I can undersatnd doing this the first time but they really shouldn’t have repeated it… it makes the show mellllllllllow…. mellow darmatic that is. it just doesn’t help the show ….. but the other scenes are so epic and awesome and moving. but this i cannot forgive this… ugh it bothers me 😦

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of course I did mad research after episode 1 (watched with the jsubs)  to figure out what the hell i watched as far as the history/famous historical people are concerned… so i read stuff but it’s still not crystal clear or maybe it is? but i don’t want to read anymore.  but anyways here’s the goods! the lines in question + resaearch!  from internet so who knows if it’s wrong. I hope it’s not cause it’s annoying to read a bunch of diff sources and chekc with each other.

攘夷とは天皇を中心とした国を作ることだと認識しています。
江戸時代末期、黒船(異人)来航により江戸幕府は開国を迫られました。
時の将軍、徳川家茂とその幕臣たちは開国を支持。
しかしこのままでは異人に日本をのっとられると思った各地の志士(浪人や脱藩者がほとんど)は、その徳川幕府の考えに猛反対し、長州(今の山口県)藩を中心に討幕運動、つまり革命を起こしたのです。
しかしいくら革命といっても旗頭がいなければ成り立ちません。
それが天皇であり(当時はあまり実権をもたなかった)尊皇攘夷という観念です。

徳川側も当然、指をくわえている訳はありません。
そこで新撰組という特異な人斬り集団をつくり、今の京都(当時は中心的な都)で志士達の一掃を図ったのです。

つまり長州の志士であった桂小五郎と新撰組は完全に敵であり、坂本竜馬も同じく新撰組に命を狙われる存在だったのです

江戸幕末では
「開国」を主張する徳川幕府や薩摩藩と、
「攘夷」を主張する長州藩の対立となった

3)尊王、攘夷の思想

「尊王」とは天皇の古代的権威を復活させ、崇拝する思想で、幕府が勅許なしで開国の条約を結んだことなどは「尊王派」の志士たちをいたく刺激し、幕府非難の論拠となったのである。

「攘夷」とは自国と夷狄(外国)を区別する名分論であり、排外的な思想です。幕府がペリーの脅しに屈したとして開国の一歩を踏み出したとみる攘夷派からは強い不満が噴出し、幕政批判につながっていきました。

このため「尊王論」と「攘夷論」は、ここに幕府に対する批判的な思想として結合し、「尊王攘夷論」という反幕スローガンとなっていきました。

ここで誤解してはならないのが、「開国論者」は決して、「尊王攘夷論者」ではないというわけではなく、ここで外国と戦っても他のアジア諸国のように植民地化されるのは目に見えており、「とりあえず開国して軍備をととのえるべきという意味では、方法論の異なる「攘夷論者」であり、また同様に「尊王」の意識を持たずにいたということでもない。

新撰組は、幕府を滅ぼそうとする尊王攘夷派を駆逐する目的で作られた組織です。
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00:39:41,170 –> 00:39:43,190
あッ 龍馬さん

441
00:39:43,190 –> 00:39:46,190
少し教えてほしいんですが
おう

442
00:39:46,190 –> 00:39:49,850
象山先生を襲ったのは
誰なんですか?

443
00:39:49,850 –> 00:39:53,520
首の横の斬奸状には

444
00:39:53,520 –> 00:39:58,020
攘夷派が 天誅を下したっちゅう
声明があったけんど

445
00:39:58,020 –> 00:40:00,940
実は それは見せかけで

446
00:40:00,940 –> 00:40:04,860
襲うたがは
象山先生を抱える松代藩の

447
00:40:04,860 –> 00:40:08,850
家老一派じゃないか
っちゅう噂も あるがぜよ

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佐久間家は
屋敷を召し上げられたぜよ

456
00:40:46,570 –> 00:40:49,570
じゃあ 偽の首は?

457
00:40:50,510 –> 00:40:54,840
松代藩が
攘夷派に罪をなすりつけるための

458
00:40:54,840 –> 00:40:57,910
見せかけにした
っちゅうとこじゃろ

459
00:40:57,910 –> 00:41:02,520
象山先生は
熱心な開国主義者じゃったし

460
00:41:02,520 –> 00:41:06,860
攘夷派のもんらは 天誅じゃと
人を襲いまわっちょった

461
00:41:06,860 –> 00:41:09,860
疑うもんも おらんがじゃ

462
00:41:09,860 –> 00:41:14,850
そん攘夷派を 国賊っちゅうて
斬りまわっちゅうがが

463
00:41:14,850 –> 00:41:17,530
新撰組じゃき

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00:43:02,870 –> 00:43:05,940
あれは?
長州の連中です→

482
00:43:05,940 –> 00:43:10,560
こないだの池田屋で 尊王攘夷派の
指導者達を新撰組に殺され

483
00:43:10,560 –> 00:43:14,830
いきりたってるんでしょう
長州の人って どうしてそんなに

484
00:43:14,830 –> 00:43:19,500
いじめられてるというか
尊王攘夷を掲げている長州は

485
00:43:19,500 –> 00:43:23,860
それをおもしろく思わない薩摩に
はめられたんです

486
00:43:23,860 –> 00:43:27,950
薩摩と長州って
そんなに仲悪かったんですか

487
00:43:27,950 –> 00:43:30,520
犬と猿ぜよ

488
00:43:30,520 –> 00:43:33,590
(蟻川)その結果 長州は
都を追われ→

489
00:43:33,590 –> 00:43:37,510
藩主父子には 処罰が下されました
それから長州は→

490
00:43:37,510 –> 00:43:40,510
国賊と さげすまれるように
なったんです→

491
00:43:40,510 –> 00:43:43,510
久坂玄瑞などが
藩主父子の免罪を求めて→

492
00:43:43,510 –> 00:43:47,520
嘆願を重ねておりましたが
果たせぬうちに 池田屋です→

493
00:43:47,520 –> 00:43:51,840
長州としては もう我慢がならぬ
というところでございましょう

494
00:43:51,840 –> 00:43:54,860
長州は
何をどうするつもりなんですか?

495
00:43:54,860 –> 00:43:59,510
天子様の身柄を奪い
我こそは官軍じゃっちゅうて

496
00:43:59,510 –> 00:44:04,520
国賊の汚名を一気に返上するとか
いいんですか? そんなことして

and I chiebukuroed this:

≪(龍馬)「ほととぎす
地になく声は 有明の」
「月より他に知る人ぞなし」→

AND i figurede out why he said: 00:45:07,950 –> 00:45:11,250
あのときの詫びじゃ 南方殿
it’s because I didn’t rewatch season 1…  it’s because the thing that happened at the end of episode 10 which happens because of this dialogue:

「ペニシリン!?
坂本はそれを使って何をしようとしているんじゃ!」
「攘夷派の者に、痩毒に聞くが故使わぬかと、
売り込んでいるらしい!」
「物売りをしてどうしようと!」
「命と天秤となれば、攘夷の志を捨てるものも出てこよう。」
と長州藩士・久坂。
「久坂殿!」
「恐らく、真の狙いはその辺りであろう。
私のところにも話をしたいという密書が来た。」
「斬らねば、なりませんな。坂本を。」

BUT episode 2 was back on track and it was fun to watch jin go to places we’ve never seen and all that stuff… though that happened in episode 1 too it was draggy compared to episode 2 which made it less exiting??

and this show is on TBS not FUJI. lol I wonder how different it would be if it was on fuji… the FUJI demo was like lolz. I feel so bad for the japanese they can’t even get jaapnesen tv well at least on fuji. I noticed there was a random surge of korean stuff on japanese tv and I’m just like what the hell??like HEY HEY HEY kept doing kpop specials… and I looked it up and it’s on FUJI! and they did these specials for like 3 months in a row lol. in the news show they invite kpop idols that speak japanese in this ANNOYING koraen accent or they have a translator and basically you listen to more korean than japanese while watching this japanese morning show lol.  they do special reports and stuff on este-esute (beauty treatment ) that are koraen or food that’s korean….  or on KARA or anything korean…  I’m sure there are days where fuji does stuff on korean all day……… somehow in someway. but anywayas props to KARA because at least compared to shoujo jidai they acutally speak/understand Japanese and they’re prnounciation is better than SNSD… minus suyon (but it’s like she already knows japanese though she can learn more obviously). they went on shabekuri and they’re just like  oh we’ve only studied a month. but the first time they went on shabekuri was interesting but the second time was NOT … which is weird cause I would think it wouldd be more interesting since theyr’e japanese is better and they can have more interesting talk but like they didn’t make it about talking about interesting stuff.

read in some article they air 40 hours of koraen dramer ta on fuji I’m like do they even air this much drama in one week on korean tv on one channel (among mbc, kbs, kbs2)?  I asked my mom who is korean and she doesn’t feel bad for them lol. she was like welll they should learn about korea and what a great country it is and all that lol.  but of course she thought 40 hours was insane too.

https://i0.wp.com/img192.imageshack.us/img192/3029/may082010.png

oooh . it got featured on fukaii hanashi ep  on manga/anime

aired may -8 2010! . thank god for clubbox… that I was able to see the ep.

so they told  a deep backstory on why the author decided to write JIN

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